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How Pip Value Changes by Account Currency
The same position can be worth a different amount per pip depending on the currency your account is held in. Here is why, and how to convert it.
What this page is for
This page explains the last step of a pip-value calculation — the account-currency conversion — because it is the step most people skip and the reason two traders on the same pair quote different pip values. It pairs with the pip value calculator, which handles the arithmetic; here we show what is happening underneath so you can sanity-check the result. It is educational, not trading advice, and it uses example exchange rates rather than live prices.
How it works
Pip value is built in two steps.
pip value (quote currency) = pip size × units, where units = lots × contract size
For most pairs the pip size is 0.0001 and a standard lot is 100,000 units, so the quote-currency value of one pip on a standard lot is 0.0001 × 100,000 = 10 of the quote currency. Pairs quoted against the Japanese yen use a pip size of 0.01 instead.
Then convert into your account currency. There are three cases:
- Account currency = quote currency. No conversion; the quote-currency value is already in your money.
- Account currency = base currency. Divide the quote-currency value by the pair's price.
- Account currency = a third currency. Multiply (or divide) by the rate that turns the quote currency into your account currency.
Inputs and assumptions
- Standard lot = 100,000 units of the base currency; a mini lot is 10,000 and a micro lot is 1,000.
- Pip size is 0.0001 for most pairs and 0.01 for yen-quoted pairs.
- Example rates below are illustrative round numbers, not live quotes. Your broker's rate at the moment of conversion is what actually applies.
- Figures are gross pip values only. Spread, commission and swap are separate — see why your broker P&L differs.
Worked example 1 — EUR/USD across three account currencies
Take one standard lot of EUR/USD. The quote currency is USD, so the quote-currency pip value is 0.0001 × 100,000 = $10 per pip. Now convert for three different accounts, using EUR/USD at 1.0800 and GBP/USD at 1.2700:
- USD account: quote currency matches, so it stays $10.00 per pip.
- EUR account: the base currency is EUR, so divide by the price:
10 ÷ 1.0800 = €9.26 per pip. - GBP account: GBP is a third currency, so convert USD to GBP via GBP/USD:
10 ÷ 1.2700 = £7.87 per pip.
Same trade, same 100,000 units, three different pip values — because the money is measured in three different currencies. A 30-pip move is $300, €277.78 or £236.22 on the same position.
Worked example 2 — GBP/JPY on a EUR account
This is the case that trips people up, because it combines the yen pip rule with a third-currency conversion. Take one standard lot of GBP/JPY. The quote currency is JPY and the pip size for a yen pair is 0.01, so the quote-currency value is 0.01 × 100,000 = ¥1,000 per pip. Convert yen to euro using EUR/JPY at 170.00: 1,000 ÷ 170.00 = €5.88 per pip. If you had forgotten the yen rule and used 0.0001, you would have reported one-hundredth of the correct figure.
Common mistakes — why the number moves
- Assuming every account is a dollar account. Online pip tables usually show the USD-account value. On a EUR or GBP account the real figure is different, and every downstream risk number inherits the error.
- Forgetting the yen pip size. For any pair quoted in JPY the pip is 0.01, not 0.0001. Miss it and you are off by a factor of 100.
- Converting a cross pair twice. Convert once, from the quote currency to your account currency. Dividing again by the traded pair's own price is a common double-conversion error.
- Treating the pip value as fixed. When your account currency differs from the quote currency, the value drifts as the conversion rate moves, so a figure from this morning is only approximate this afternoon.
Methodology and limitations
The two-step method here is the mainstream convention and matches the engine behind our pip value calculator, which is tested against known worked examples. Exchange rates used above are illustrative; a live conversion uses your broker's rate at that instant, so expect small differences. These figures are gross pip values and do not include spread, commission or swap. This is educational information for non-US retail traders, not investment, trading or financial advice. Always confirm the result against your own broker before you act on it. Last updated 2026-07-06.